tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195590583641426943.post2538393249524942940..comments2024-03-26T23:10:34.814-07:00Comments on Grateful Dead Sources: August 26, 1971: Gaelic Park, NYCLight Into Asheshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195590583641426943.post-6297967561126449782017-03-17T13:27:59.136-07:002017-03-17T13:27:59.136-07:00Umm, I was there. This reviewer either was not or...Umm, I was there. This reviewer either was not or was more stoned than I was way back when. Article says there were two drummers but we all know Mickey was not there. This was the last show with the original 5 members of the band. Hmmm, makes you wonder...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00635490871945686947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195590583641426943.post-66210726757196269772014-09-14T11:10:58.610-07:002014-09-14T11:10:58.610-07:00The all-caps titles at the start of each post are ...The all-caps titles at the start of each post are always the original article titles. (They aren't repeated in the bibliographic details at the end, but they are also in the index of articles.)<br /><br />Good Lovin' was probably one of the few songs Moore recognized - maybe he didn't particularly notice Pigpen (just another one of the singers), but he's one of a few reviewers at the time who compared a Dead show to a church service. Pigpen didn't do a whole lot of preachin' at this show, so here it's more like a metaphor for the music in general.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195590583641426943.post-37394418511066265092014-09-14T08:58:31.398-07:002014-09-14T08:58:31.398-07:00LIA, is the all caps bit (here, GOOD LOVIN', G...LIA, is the all caps bit (here, GOOD LOVIN', GOOD PREACHIN') the title of the article? You know how I love bibliographic details. But I'd also note that, if so, Pigpen gets a tip o' the cap in the article's very title.Fate Musichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05648291938690043423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195590583641426943.post-44156379694835576732013-11-12T20:53:54.943-08:002013-11-12T20:53:54.943-08:00Yes, I also noticed some 1971 reviewers not liking...Yes, I also noticed some 1971 reviewers not liking the Dead's new C&W-style stuff. Today we accept country as part of the Dead's normal repertoire, but then it was seen as a big abrupt change, and not everyone would have welcomed it. (And sitting through an opening NRPS set was deadly for those people!) <br />I don't know how much Dead he'd heard before, but Carman Moore seems startled that they would start a show playing a bunch of "awfully short" songs. But he was aware that they would take their time and get more into jams & grooves later in the show as they settled in. He rightly identifies jamming as "the real magic music territory of this band," where they're at their best and most unique - but the corollary to that is, when they were just singing short songs, they could be pretty disappointing. <br /><br />No, Pigpen has not been getting much attention in the last few 1971 reviews; but his role in the show had also been reduced. No more Schoolgirls or Cautions; no Lovelights in these recent shows - his big number in 1971 is Good Lovin', and he doesn't close the show much anymore. For instance on 8/26/71, he only had one song in the second set, and spent most the time on organ or congas, so he wouldn't particularly stand out.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195590583641426943.post-80178944163269480992013-11-12T10:38:55.583-08:002013-11-12T10:38:55.583-08:00I have noticed in a number of these older reviews ...I have noticed in a number of these older reviews the author stating a preference for the more adventurous part of the repertoire and a dislike for the c+w style offerings.They also don't spend much time on the blues and rock portion of the show.It also seems that Pigpen doesn't receive that much attention even though he was purportedly the big draw in the band.Jerry's abilities generate much praise and Phil gets acknowledged regularly.The critics back then might not have been as familiar with the bands music,but they seem to understand it's essence and impact far better than most that came later.jerlouvisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195590583641426943.post-34875954890249385142013-11-12T03:00:07.881-08:002013-11-12T03:00:07.881-08:00Yes, I'm sure it's the same guy, he also d...Yes, I'm sure it's the same guy, he also did music reviews for the New York Times (a 1970 jazz review is currently on his site). In my "Garcia & Tarot" post there's a review by him of the "Tarot" play, from the Village Voice.Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195590583641426943.post-9816610857596643372013-11-12T02:42:21.208-08:002013-11-12T02:42:21.208-08:00I wonder if this is this Carman Moore: http://www....I wonder if this is this Carman Moore: http://www.carmanmoore.com<br /><br />He seems like an ideal reviewer: he presents his response in such a way that each reader will be able to tell whether they will like it, independent of whether the reviewer liked it or not.Andrew Shieldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02804655739574694901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5195590583641426943.post-22962984188880966942013-11-12T02:24:43.723-08:002013-11-12T02:24:43.723-08:00This review shows an interesting process - though ...This review shows an interesting process - though Moore was not a fan and not familiar with the Dead's songs, and didn't like their new C&W-type material, by the end of the show they had seduced him, and he left eager to see them again. <br />As an outsider, he gives a good account of the band/audience dynamic, and the expectations of the audience. Perhaps coincidentally, he's one of a couple Pigpen-era reviewers who compare a Dead show to being in church. <br />He saw two drummers, but Kreutzmann was the only one at this show. My guess is Pigpen spent a lot of time on the congas, so Moore may have taken him to be the percussionist. <br />He also notes Phil's prominent place in shaping the music - perhaps it's just due to the bass-heavy nature of our tapes, but August 1971 is indeed a month where Phil exuberantly stands out in the shows. <br />The jam he describes as taking place in St. Stephen seems more to me like it might be the end-of-GDTRFB jam. Hard to know whether Moore didn't even recognize Not Fade Away, or just had incomplete notes, but maybe he got lost in the music... Light Into Asheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06943335142002007213noreply@blogger.com